The Demonstration of Power – A Dialogue

LC:  This thing of church and religion has conditioned or geared us not to reach into a higher level beyond the teaching we have known from the Bible itself. It is a whole new realm out there that no one has walked in before. And that is why they without us (Hebrews) are not made complete. Because we are to walk in what we are walking in now and it will all come together. And I kept thinking about Gehazi, and when Elijah touched him and opened his eyes to see that greater were those with them than those against them. We don’t realize how much not seeing ministers unbelief. When we speak of the gospel going to the ends of the earth, everyone thinks the gospel is just the word, but the word going to the end of the earth and the gospel is different. Because the gospel comes with both the word and power. It wasn’t just the word. It is nothing to get the word out, we could take and email all the way around the world, but what we are talking about is the power, and that is the difference when you speak of the "word" and the "gospel" because it was not just the word, it was to be a demonstration of power. There are words everywhere, but it is the demonstration of power.

CE:  So Christ spoke the word over the 70 and said, Go out and minister. Because that was the gospel. It was a demonstration of power that the 70 walked in.

LC:  There are a lot of people on the corners preaching words, and you can’t argue with them, but where is the demonstration of power. That is what the gospel is.

CE:  Some have a word and a smattering of power. But this is not what we are talking about.

LC:  Another thing, we have seen the demonstration of the power of God in sprinklings through individuals, but as a group we have not seen this. It will be a group that comes together and walks in this power. This is what is unfolding. We will not need to be concerned with personalities or some agreement - because if you are demonstrating the power - and as we see it demonstrated as a group – that is the thing we are looking for. Anything else we are doing does not compare to this demonstration of power. And even this thing of oneness, which has been so shrouded in the religious concept of everyone running around "liking each other" etc. has nothing to do with this. As if they get the highest manifestation of the flesh and call it oneness. The true oneness will be standing and demonstrating the power together. The oneness we are talking about is not based on everyone doing the same thing; oneness is a meeting place in the heart of the Father where things happen.

And if we are waiting for perfection before we move, it won’t happen. Who was perfect? You go back in the chronicles of the prophets and who was perfect? None of them. But yet they moved in the power. Forget perfection, give me the power.

CE:  You can’t tell me when Elijah called down the bears to kill the kids in the story of the old testament that he had a good spirit. They called him baldy, and he called down the bears on them.

LC:  Our concepts have all been screwed up, and that is what we are getting out of. That is why when we talk of seeing, everyone tries to look with their eyes - but how much more. When we talk of seeing, the greatest will not be seeing the angels and all of the ethereal things, but it will be to see God in us, and in everyone else. That is the greatest ability of sight that we can have. All of these other things are cool and will help us, but to see through the eyes of God ...then we will know exactly what to do. It is like our perception has been out of focus, and we are adjusting the "sight". But not just see, but see with the power. Because if you can’t see the ways of God, then how are you going to do the ways of God. It seems so simple now, but it’s here.

CE:  Old order says the word with signs following, but that is not the way it is, we will follow the signs. The signs do not follow the word. There is a completing of the work before you even get there, so you cannot take the glory.

LC:  It is just like when Christ was born. For 12 years the star had been present, and that is how the Magi knew to come. It wasn’t that they saw Christ and then the signs came, the sign was there drawing everyone. And we are seeing the same, and we are being drawn to it. Instead of just running blindly, hoping that we will run into something. But we are seeing the signs, and that is what we are pursuing. And the closer you come, the bigger and clearer it gets. So, if you are not seeing it and doing it, how are you going to know what is happening... you will become like everyone, becoming fat and content in the word, but there is no growth. And so you eventually die. The word itself will not sustain. It must be the word with power.

CE:  There are groups and churches and other worldwide ministries out there, and they are attracting more people, but percentage wise, the power has remained the same. It hasn’t changed.

LC:  And even their drawing of people is based on something they had 30 or 40 years ago. And even that has eroded. The power and demonstration has really eroded, and all they can do is just talk about what they did.

LK:  We can identify with Christ, which is what and who we are in this age, or we can identify with the transference and conditioning which we have grown up under. Whichever you identify with, will draw those energies to you. And if you identify with Christ, in all that He is, that will have to manifest fully within you, because that is the truth. - Christ is unlimited, and so are we. We have accepted too much of the conditioning. The only thing which could circumvent this would be yourself, and your perception of yourself. Your thinking. You pull out the conditioning, you get rid of the block.

LC:  The first thing which Isaiah said when he met the Lord, was woe is me. And so, we too, are still too used to seeing ourselves through the conditioning, instead of seeing through the eyes of Christ. It is us accepting and doing, and not basing anything on circumstances.

JK:  It is time to stop living as paupers.

CE:  We have not understood that it is already happening.

LC:  Our keys are being tuned, and each one of us is a key being tuned to the same pitch, but different notes. And it will come together. It is so much about energy and vibration and understanding what God is bringing forth.