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We Have Received a
Promotion
a Dialogue
LC:
For
the last month I have been sleeping much more, and
waking up tired. And, as I would awake I found I was
passing certain people in the Spirit, and I thought I
was waking up too fast because at the end I would always
see John or Leo, and I would wake up just seeming to
miss them. Yet, God has been showing me that they have
been working on me the whole last month to open me up to
a whole new level of seeing. And I have been trying to
see and relate to it as in the past, yet it is a whole
new thing. And we have no examples to go from.
CE:
We
are coming into something new and it takes a lot more –
LC:
It
is a deep work - we are being prepared for another touch
so that we will start seeing clearly. I have been going
from having a faith or believing to knowing. I know that
I know - I have always known – it has never been a
question. This thing of church and religion has
conditioned or geared us not to reach into a higher
level beyond the teaching we have known from the Bible
itself. It is a whole new realm out there that no one
has walked in before. And that is why they without us
(Hebrews) are not made complete. Because we are to walk
in what we are walking in now and it will all come
together. Now I feel I finally see what is happening.
LK:
Charles had a dream a couple of nights ago about
everyone receiving a promotion.
CE:
I
was dreaming that I was back at work, and there was a
whole group of us, seemed like about 50 of us and we
walked by the boss and he spoke, "By the way, all of you
have received a promotion". And I said, "Well generally
with a promotion comes a commendation. When is the
commendation going to come." He said, "It is on its way,
but you are going to get it".
LC:
That is interesting because yesterday, during my sleep I
was asking God, "How many of us are there?". And the
word came back, "50". So, I don’t know if it is symbolic
or just what.... It is like this word I worked on last
night......those that are with us.... It is us
and the spirit realm, and all of us being made
complete.... It is symbolic to me of seeing on a new
level. And I kept thinking about Gehazi, and when Elijah
touched him and opened his eyes to see that greater were
those with them than those against them. We don’t
realize how much not seeing ministers unbelief. When we
speak of the gospel going to the ends of the earth,
everyone thinks the gospel is just the word, but the
word going to the end of the earth and the gospel is
different. Because the gospel comes with both the word
and power. It wasn’t just the word. It is nothing to get
the word out, we could take and email all the way around
the world, but what we are talking about is the power,
and that is the difference when you speak of the "word"
and the "gospel" because it was not just the word, it
was to be a demonstration of power. There are words
everywhere, but it is the demonstration of power. And
that is what I believe this promotion refers to that we
are talking about. We realize we have a good word, but
it will be the power that makes the difference. It will
not make any difference whether or not people believe
us, because it will be a demonstration of power that
will do the whole thing.
CE:
So
Christ spoke the word over the 70 and said, Go out and
minister. Because that was the gospel. It was a
demonstration of power that the 70 walked in.
LC:
There are a lot of people on the corners preaching
words, and you can’t argue with them, but where is the
demonstration of power. That is what the gospel is. I
have never seen it this way before.
LK:
We
have been feeling the demand come up, a demand to move
into the power and authority of the Lord. We are not
interested in promoting concepts - the question is the
authority taking hold.
CE:
Some have a word and a smattering of power. But this is
not what we are talking about.
LC:
Another thing, we have seen the demonstration of the
power of God in sprinklings through individuals, but as
a group we have not seen this. It will be a group that
comes together and walks in this power. This is what is
unfolding for us. We will not need to be concerned with
personalities or some agreement - because if you are
demonstrating the power - and as we see it demonstrated
as a group – that is the thing we are looking for.
Anything else we are doing does not compare to this
demonstration of power. And even this thing of oneness,
which has been so shrouded in the religious concept of
everyone running around "liking each other" etc. has
nothing to do with this. As if they get the highest
manifestation of the flesh and call it oneness. The true
oneness will be standing and demonstrating the power
together. The oneness we are talking about is not based
on everyone doing the same thing; oneness is a meeting
place in the heart of the Father where things happen.
It
is time that these words become something, a demonstration of
power. We will have nothing to prove. It is a
peace we are coming into of just knowing. And knowing
that if there is anything creating a delay, it is
because more of timing, than my lack. Because He is not
waiting for us to be perfect. If we are waiting for
perfection before we move, it won’t happen. Who was
perfect? You go back in the chronicles of the prophets
and who was perfect? None of them. But yet they moved in
the power. Forget perfection, give me the power.
CE:
You
can’t tell me when Elijah called down the bears to kill
the kids in the story of the old testament that he had a
good spirit. They called him baldy, and he called down
the bears on them.
LC:
Our
concepts have all been screwed up, and that is what we
are getting out of. That is why when we talk of seeing,
everyone tries to look with their eyes - but how much
more. When we talk of seeing, the greatest will not be
seeing the angels and all of the ethereal things, but it
will be to see God in us, and in everyone else. That is
the greatest ability of sight that we can have. All of
these other things are cool and will help us, but to see
through the eyes of God ...then we will know exactly
what to do.
CE:
I
am glad that we realize that what we are in is not just
some battle, but it is a promotion. And we just have to
stay closer. I know that I have to get with the Lord
several times a day.
LC:
Right. It is a promotion. And it is time for us to start
seeing on this level. And recognizing it. I know this is
a breakthrough, and it will start happening for us. It
is like our perception has been out of focus, and we are
adjusting the "sight". But not just see, but see with
the power. Because if you can’t see the ways of
God, then how are you going to do the ways of God.
It seems so simple now, but it’s here. You are right, it
is a promotion. And I know we will continually see
things opening up. It is a change in everything, even in
the way we do things. It is like being a kid again, I am
learning anew, all of the things that I thought I knew -
it is fresh, real and active. We cannot move out of the
old way of doing things, but the new way that He is
showing.
Even now, you can feel the atmosphere being charged, the
impartation - it is way beyond this room. It is going
out, and it is that connection. We are being shown a
completely new way of doing things - it is all spiritual
now. The soul is not a factor. Because if it was
perfected — the thing about perfection is that it
eliminates you, and that is why God hasn’t completed the
perfection, because if we were perfect, He would have no
need for us.
CE:
Old
order says the word with signs following, but that is
not the way it is, we will follow the signs. The signs
do not follow the word. There is a completing of the
work before you even get there, so you cannot take the
glory.
LC:
It
is just like when Christ was born. For 12 years the star
had been present, and that is how the Magi knew to come.
It wasn’t that they saw Christ and then the signs came,
the sign was there drawing everyone. And we are seeing
the same, and we are being drawn to it. Instead of just
running blindly, hoping that we will run into something.
But we are seeing the signs, and that is what we are
pursuing. And the closer you come, the bigger and
clearer it gets. And our pursuit in the realm of Spirit
has brought us to this point. Because before now, since
1982, there had not been any progress in the Spirit in
our camp. You can say we had the word, but there was no
power, and it is the combination of the 2 that will make
it happen. So, if you are not seeing it and doing it,
how are you going to know what is happening... you will
become like everyone, becoming fat and content in the
word, but there is no growth. And so you eventually die.
The word itself will not sustain. It must be the word
with power.
CE:
There are groups and churches and other worldwide
ministries out there, and they are attracting more
people, but percentage wise, the power has remained the
same. It hasn’t changed.
LC:
And
even their drawing of people is based on something they
had 30 or 40 years ago. And even that has eroded. The
power and demonstration has really eroded, and all they
can do is just talk about what they did.
JK:
When he said Promotion all I could think is that He made
us rulers of 1 city, Now He is going to make us ruler
over many cities! Oh My!
CE:
Well, a promotion to a teacher is to have less students
and more authority over them.
RK:
Right, there is the filtering out of those not
interested.
LC:
Exactly, for those who are hungry, and it will be an
impartation. And God is going to provide, because we
will be that provision, because we will have dominion,
speaking it and seeing it happen.
CE:
We
have a lot to do
LC:
We
have needed that extra touch - we have given the enemy
too much credit. Because we have authority - it is that
conditioning again that needs to change. God is working
on us, almost like taking the hard drive out of the
computer and putting in a new hard drive within us
CE:
I
have thought recently, in retrospect, "Oh my God, is it
going to happen again, are we going to miss the window
of what God is opening up to a people". And I thought,
No, we are going to get our orders right the first time.
LC:
I
don’t think we know how well we are really doing, except
we know that God is leading us. We have pushed ourselves
into a place where He can pull us along further. Because
He has been more than ready.
LK:
What came last night has been a word on identification -
we can identify with Christ, which is what and who we
are in this age, or we can identify with the
transference and conditioning which we have grown up
under. Whichever you identify with, will draw those
energies to you. And if you identify with Christ, in all
that He is, that will have to manifest fully within you,
because that is the truth. And as things come in during
the day, we stop and identify what is happening, and do
not allow ourselves to accept the lie, the limitation,
the identification of the illusion and the limitation -
Christ is unlimited, and so are we. We have accepted too
much of the conditioning.
LC:
It
is that simple, WE ARE THE CHRIST.
LK:
And
God has been doing the deep work. The only thing which
could circumvent this would be yourself, and your
perception of yourself. Your thinking. You pull out the
conditioning, you get rid of the block. We are removing
the conditionings, no longer accepting the lies.
LC:
The
first thing which Isaiah said when he met the Lord, was
woe is me. And so, we too, are still too used to seeing
ourselves through the conditioning, instead of seeing
through the eyes of Christ. It is us accepting and
doing, and not basing anything on circumstances. How
many miracles and other things, have we undone after it
has been completed, by us not walking it through. How
often we have crossed out things which have already been
set into a positive release because of this.
LK:
The
enemies job has been pretty easy, all he had to do was
to get us to identify with what we have always lived
with - the apparent limitations, our incorrect
perceptions, rather than the fullness of God that we
are.
JK:
It
is time to stop living as paupers.
CE:
We
have not understood that it is already happening.
LC:
Our
keys are being tuned, and each one of us is a key being
tuned to the same pitch, but different notes. And it
will come together. It is so much about energy and
vibration and understanding what God is bringing forth.
JK:
And
even God had to speak it out loud when He created
things. I have a different concept of this now. We are
the same.
LC:
And
we don’t realize how much in our speaking we are
creating things. We start speaking - it is a release of
energy - instead of accepting whatever happens. We have
probably had 2 or 3 level changes in just the past 2
weeks.
RK:
Breaking bonds and shutting off layers. (Larry; Exactly
- we have not had time to stop and build 3 tabernacles,
because everything is just shooting down the road.)
CE:
We
have to run like "hell".
LC:
I
remember there used to be an excitement about coming
together, because you knew something was going to
happen. And that has been gone, but it is here again. An
excitement, because whenever you connect, there are
sparks of energy - and you know something is happening.
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